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Post by exmerseymariner on May 31, 2016 16:57:40 GMT
I don't think he was criticising the Trusts pricing, rather, holding it up as an example of sensible pricing, and criticising their approval of GTFC's rather strange £20 across the board price rises. I think you might have put that a bit more diplomatically than me. Yes, i misunderstood you, and left myself open to yet more abuse from you. Fantastic. Its a shame; you make such good points on occasion, but manage to be so abusive so easily and so frequently.
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Post by thatcuntswin on May 31, 2016 17:07:06 GMT
I think you might have put that a bit more diplomatically than me. Yes, i misunderstood you, and left myself open to yet more abuse from you. Fantastic. Its a shame; you make such good points on occasion, but manage to be so abusive so easily and so frequently. Abusive? FFS hasn't been the least bit abusive (yet) he's still getting the Fishy restrictions out of his system - wait til the real Golly gets going Don't be a twat - its dealing with twats so frequently on the Fishy that gets him started
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Post by GollyGTFC on May 31, 2016 18:47:15 GMT
Yes, i misunderstood you, and left myself open to yet more abuse from you. Fantastic. Its a shame; you make such good points on occasion, but manage to be so abusive so easily and so frequently. Abusive? FFS hasn't been the least bit abusive (yet) he's still getting the Fishy restrictions out of his system - wait til the real Golly gets going Don't be a twat - its dealing with twats so frequently on the Fishy that gets him started Since when has "fucking numpty" been abusive? It's a term of endearment where I come from.
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Post by exmerseymariner on May 31, 2016 20:36:24 GMT
Abusive? FFS hasn't been the least bit abusive (yet) he's still getting the Fishy restrictions out of his system - wait til the real Golly gets going Don't be a twat - its dealing with twats so frequently on the Fishy that gets him started Since when has "fucking numpty" been abusive? It's a term of endearment where I come from. aw ;-)
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Post by kingstonmariner on Jun 1, 2016 0:19:04 GMT
Abusive? FFS hasn't been the least bit abusive (yet) he's still getting the Fishy restrictions out of his system - wait til the real Golly gets going Don't be a twat - its dealing with twats so frequently on the Fishy that gets him started Since when has "fucking numpty" been abusive? It's a term of endearment where I come from. Does that explain Thatcher?
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Post by diehardmariner on Jun 1, 2016 9:39:29 GMT
Oh and we can swear and say someone is a cunt when they are being a cunt? Can we? Oh good. You were being a cunt when you said the Trust board should resign in shame. ;-)
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Post by GollyGTFC on Jun 1, 2016 10:15:50 GMT
Oh and we can swear and say someone is a cunt when they are being a cunt? Can we? Oh good. You were being a cunt when you said the Trust board should resign in shame. ;-) Firstly, learn how to type your own message in the correct place when using the quote option. May I suggest you and anyone else for that matter read the Trust's website where they seem proud that they "helped implement changes (e.g. ticket prices)". And then they gave public backing to the "new pricing structure" despite Grimsby Town now being the costliest League 2 to follow for families. If half the clubs in League 2 can offer Free junior season tickets then Town's £70 / 40% price rise is shown up for what it is. A disgrace. Maybe I am a cunt, but the Trust board are bigger cunts.
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Post by diehardmariner on Jun 1, 2016 12:12:05 GMT
Oh noes. I made an error when quoting on a message board! Take a star off me and put it on your chart.
I don't care what the Trust website says or what they said in public, it doesn't deserve the abuse you dished out. If you're that bloody bothered maybe you should get off your arse and put yourself forward for a place on the board rather than slinging out abuse on an internet forum!
I actually agree with you on the argument about pricing the next generation of fans out and how short-sighted it is. I just don't think it's fair to call for the resignation of people who give up their own time for the benefit of the club. You don't have to agree with them, you're completely entitled to voice your disapproval but calling for their resignation is crass.
I don't think you're a cunt, it was tongue in cheek.
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Post by GollyGTFC on Jun 1, 2016 13:08:49 GMT
Oh noes. I made an error when quoting on a message board! Take a star off me and put it on your chart. I don't care what the Trust website says or what they said in public, it doesn't deserve the abuse you dished out. If you're that bloody bothered maybe you should get off your arse and put yourself forward for a place on the board rather than slinging out abuse on an internet forum! I actually agree with you on the argument about pricing the next generation of fans out and how short-sighted it is. I just don't think it's fair to call for the resignation of people who give up their own time for the benefit of the club. You don't have to agree with them, you're completely entitled to voice your disapproval but calling for their resignation is crass. I don't think you're a cunt, it was tongue in cheek. Abuse? Calling them a bunch of cunts would be abuse. Calling them a bolus of wankers would be abuse. But I did so such thing. Saying they should all be ashamed that that they have been nodding subservients to the club's shameful 40% price rise for Junior season tickets and should resign en-masse is purely my opinion. So if you or anyone can find a post where I was abusive to the Mariners Trust or anyone else for that matter (apart from when I called exmerseymariner a fucking numpty ;-)) then please share it.
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Post by diehardmariner on Jun 1, 2016 13:33:55 GMT
Abuse doesn't just have to constitute swear words does it?
I find you calling them nodding subservients abusive and completely unwarranted.
Again, rather than criticise them why don't you join the board and give yourself a platform to challenge Fenty and the club?
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Post by thatcuntswin on Jun 1, 2016 13:46:34 GMT
Abuse doesn't just have to constitute swear words does it? I find you calling them nodding subservients abusive and completely unwarranted. Again, rather than criticise them why don't you join the board and give yourself a platform to challenge Fenty and the club? Oh please! The Trust representatives have never challenged Fenty or anyone else (that's why they are rightly described by Golly as ' nodding subservients') and adding Golly to the so called 'platform' (which is almost certainly no more than a narrow plank) would not help after all how many Trust members does it take to make the tea at board meetings for fucks sake?
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Post by diehardmariner on Jun 1, 2016 13:56:02 GMT
Oh come on! Do you know for a fact that they've never challenged Fenty or are you just slagging them off because they're an easy target? They're fucking volunteers, giving up their own time to be shot down at every opportunity by some. Quite what you're expecting from them I don't know.
Would it not help if someone like Golly, or even yourself, put yourself forward for a position with the Trust? I don't know. It certainly wouldn't harm and perhaps it would do much better than just slagging them off on the internet behind a keyboard.
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Post by GollyGTFC on Jun 1, 2016 14:32:52 GMT
Oh come on! Do you know for a fact that they've never challenged Fenty or are you just slagging them off because they're an easy target? They're fucking volunteers, giving up their own time to be shot down at every opportunity by some. Quite what you're expecting from them I don't know. Would it not help if someone like Golly, or even yourself, put yourself forward for a position with the Trust? I don't know. It certainly wouldn't harm and perhaps it would do much better than just slagging them off on the internet behind a keyboard. You say "behind a keyboard" like nobody knows who I am. There's a photo of me next to all my posts and like I said to that trust bloke on the Fishy, if you don't know who I am google "GollyGTFC" and you can find my facebook & twitter account (with my full name), a GTFC quiz i put up on Sporcle and that I am also a massive Doctor Who (Classic series) fan. I don't know whether you are a board member of the Trust or not, but what I do know is if you accept an elected position or a position of responsibility in any organisation you have to be willing to accept criticism when the organisation you are part fails to do the most important role it has. The trust's number 1 priority should be looking after the interests of supporters and ensuring football is accessible for as many people as possible. It is a disgrace that a club in a community with high child poverty (30% in NE Lincs & 34% in Grimsby) should be the costliest club in League Two for families. And it's an even bigger disgrace that the Mariners Trust aren't the ones being passionate in going on about it and it's been left to me.
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Post by diehardmariner on Jun 1, 2016 15:03:26 GMT
Have you actually raised any of these points to someone in the Trust, y'know in the Trust Bar before games maybe? Because if you haven't you are just doing it behind a keyboard, with your profile picture attached to it or not. It's easy to be passionate bashing a few rants out on the internet, anyone can do that. The real passion here would be investing hours and days into something you believe in. For the record I am a Trust member, are you? You say elected, the board are relatively unopposed in elections because so few people want to do it. When you call for them to resign, call them cunts, puppets and a disgrace...who can blame anyone for not wanting to run? Criticism, no-one minds. I think most people would welcome it, as long as it's constructive and fair. As I've said before I think your points are very valid and in the majority points that I agree with, it doesn't justify calling for the Trust members to resign though - most definitely not on the back of a phenomenal achievement like Operation Promotion less than 12 months ago. You've said what the Trust's priority should be, that's just your opinion. I don't necessarily disagree with that but if you put yourself forward for a role within the Trust, this is something you could assist with. No? I've provided the link below for you to which details how to get in contact if you want to join or assist the board. It's in the very first paragraph. www.marinerstrust.co.uk/meet-the-board/
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Post by thatcuntswin on Jun 1, 2016 17:51:42 GMT
Oh come on! Do you know for a fact that they've never challenged Fenty or are you just slagging them off because they're an easy target? They're fucking volunteers, giving up their own time to be shot down at every opportunity by some. Quite what you're expecting from them I don't know. Would it not help if someone like Golly, or even yourself, put yourself forward for a position with the Trust? I don't know. It certainly wouldn't harm and perhaps it would do much better than just slagging them off on the internet behind a keyboard. The Trust lost their best and probably only opportunity to challenge anyone, not just Fenty, on the board of GTFC when they rolled over and gave away their only weapon that might have given them more than just a teaboy position on the board, the Parker shares. It is clearly a case of when the board says jump the Trust reps say 'how high' and the ST prices for kids is clearly an example. Volunteers they may be and for that they should be commended but for me and many others they have no credibility
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